Monday, September 17, 2007

The Apple - An Atheist's Worst Nightmare

Dear readers, have you ever wondered why the modern term for a bit of information is called a Byte? The first fruit from the information superhighway (The modern day Tree of knowledge) was the first personal computer - The APPLE computer. Notice first that their company logo is an apple with a bite (or byte) taken out of it. When we surf the Internet we are downloading bytes or bits of binary information. Every day terabytes of information are downloaded worldwide.

Apples appear in many religious traditions as “the" forbidden fruit. The Book of Genesis however does not describe the forbidden fruit (Gen. 2:16-17; 3:1-6). In Latin, the term for “apple“ and “evil“ are similar in the singular (malus — apple, malum — evil) and identical in the plural (mala). This strongly suggests an ancient knowledge of the events in the Garden of Eden. In English we derive the words malicious and malignant from the latin root malus.

Behold the humble apple, the most eaten fruit in all of history. It comes as a nutritional snack pre-packaged in an eatable wrapper just the right size for your hand. It will store for months with care. As an atheist I believed for most of my life that this was all just some fortunate coincidence of evolution. As a Christian I learned more about this incredibly designed fruit and now know that none of this can possibly be coincidence. Let's dig in some more.

The man who (almost 400 years ago) made the revolutionary breakthroughs which made computers possible today was Isaac Newton. Without Calculus we would not have mastered electricity or any form of electronic communications which we have today. In the significant year of 1666 (make a mental note of the 666 as it will be important later) Isaac Newton was sitting under an apple tree. Seeing an apple fall was his inspiration for Newtonian physics and the calculus needed to model his theories. Note the role of the apple in the stories above so far.

The picture at left was Apple computer's first logo. Note the portrayal of Sir Isaac Newton contemplating under the apple tree.
A famous poem about the role of the Newtonian apple:

"In that slight startle from his contemplation --
'Tis said (for I'll not answer above ground
For any sage's creed or calculation) --
A mode of proving that the earth turn'd round
In a most natural whirl, called "gravitation;"
And this is the sole mortal who could grapple,
Since Adam, with a fall or with an apple."

A popular story claims that Newton was inspired to formulate his theory of universal gravitation by the fall of an apple from a tree. Cartoons have gone further to suggest the apple actually hit Newton's head, and that its impact somehow made him aware of the force of gravity. John Conduitt, Newton's assistant at the Royal Mint and husband of Newton's niece, described the event when he wrote about Newton's life:

In the year 1666 he retired again from Cambridge to his mother in Lincolnshire. Whilst he was pensively meandering in a garden it came into his thought that the power of gravity (which brought an apple from a tree to the ground) was not limited to a certain distance from earth, but that this power must extend much further than was usually thought. Why not as high as the Moon said he to himself & if so, that must influence her motion & perhaps retain her in her orbit, whereupon he fell a calculating what would be the effect of that supposition.

Apple computers could not have come about without this synchronistic event involving a brilliant mind and an apple way back in 1666. This event also ushered in the great scientific Renaissance and was profound in consequence. The apple was responsible for this gigantic turn of human events and also another much earlier event involving information or knowledge which we will explore soon.

Today we bring teachers (those who impart information or knowledge) an apple, and we call the lump in a man’s throat an Adam’s Apple. We call something that we covet or cherish the “apple of my eye.” Or, when someone is bad we may call them a "Bad apple."

For those scoffers who have sent me nasty-grams attacking the logical validity of this material and discredit it because it is not scientifically formatted I have a few words. This material cannot be set up as a formula or logic proof - so don't expect that it can. Instead I am using the time tested method used in our courts of law. I am building an evidenciary case. If you attack this format, then you attack our long-standing judicial system. To say that the arguement put forward here is not valid or logical is to say that our judicial theory of evidence is not valid or logical either.

In making our case we are utilizing elements of: belief, mass of evidence, hypothesis, plausibility, and deniability. If you wish to discredit the material presented here (which is what they do in courts of law) then please do so in the comments section below instead of attacking a tried and true system. Let us now continue.

The author of the picture seen at right seems to think that the forbidden fruit was an apple. The apple is culturally ingrained in our psyches. Western cultures are not alone on this score as we shall see ahead.

Now observe the seal of the Department of Education. (bel0w) In the center of the seal we see a tree prominently displayed in front of a rising sun, with a seedling germinating below the ground. What can be the meaning of this? The people who design seals for government departments don’t just throw meaningless items on for no reason. There was a reason that they chose these images and arranged them in the manner which they did. Ahead lie some crucially important points.

In our inquiry let us begin by asking what the meaning of the tree is. How does a tree relate to education? It doesn’t seem to correlate, unless you go to the book of Genesis in the Bible and read about the “tree of knowledge.”

The tree in the seal of the Department of Education is the tree of knowledge. The sunrise and sprout symbolize a new beginning. The overall message is that there will be a new knowledge revolution (rebellion) and instead of Adam and Eve taking a few bites from the tree of knowledge we on the other hand are taking terabytes daily. The majority of the World Wide Web is used for pornography, pedophiles, drug dealers, and con artists. Approximately 60% of our modern tree of knowledge is devoted to sin. Anyone who has any in depth knowledge of the Internet knows this.

In the story of Adam and Eve the Serpent (Satan) tempts Eve with the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil. Satan tells Eve that she shall be as God if she eats the fruit from the tree. Adam also ate of the fruit and the fall commenced.

In light of the abysmal performance of our educational system it does not surprise me that the people in charge of our children’s education have plans other than education in mind. Could they be setting our children up for a FALL?

It is also instructive to note that this tree is fruitless! Just like the tree of knowledge that they (the Department of Education) have given our children access to.

We have a popular hedonistic phrase which we hear regularly; ”Knowledge is power” Or to put it another way; with knowledge you will be empowered. You shall be the master of your own destiny and fate. This demotes God and positions us as little de facto gods. This is rebellion against God’s authority. God says that he appoints the times and seasons and gives purpose to our lives. Knowledge is not always a good thing.

1st Corinthians 8:1 states:”…Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth

This is the logo of the Goals 2000 Education Curriculum implemented under the Clinton administration by then Secretary of Education Donna Sheliela, and heartily endorsed by the National Education Association. (NEA) This curriculum was hatched at the United Nations under the auspices of new ager Robert Muller. Of course He was not the sole architect, much input was provided by psychologists in “cognitive development” the same ones who have been obsessing with self esteem and the Pleasure Principle for many decades.

If you will, note in the logo the goals of this “educational” curriculum inlaid on the graphic of the logo itself. We read;

Fulfillment of the individual
The human family
Our planetary home

All of the above are direct contributors to self-glorification. Remember that change is the central thesis of the Pleasure Principle. It is the primary agent used by the social engineers to overthrow the old ways.

By the way, do you see three sixes in the logo? The change agents pretend to be secular and supposedly have no belief in God or religion yet they use ample religious (albeit Satanic) symbolism. Secular humanism is only a mask they wear.

We should be asking ourselves, since when does the government have the mandate or authority to indoctrinate our children on the topics of self, and globalization. They are supposed to be educating not indoctrinating, but this is accepted somehow. Their outlandish propaganda would never have been accepted 50 years ago. But-

“controversial proposals once accepted soon become hallowed.“- Dean Acheson

The players who have conspired here are the NEA, U.S. government, United Nations, and the powers behind modern psychology. Their designs are carefully meditated to subvert the hearts and minds of our children.

If the goal is supposedly education as they claim, then why don’t they include reading, writing and arithmetic in their logo? Education is not the priority, but propagandizing is. Our children are being actively brain washed by our own teachers and government, using our own money.

One example of indoctrination: most children (unless they are home schooled) know well the slogan “Think globally, act locally.” I refer you to the logo of Goals 2000, observe one of their main indoctrination points “our planetary home” another way of saying globalism. These slogans are quite effective. It was not parents who taught this slogan of globalism to their children, this was done by the so called “educators” courtesy of our government. Whenever government comes along with a slogan it is propaganda no matter how benevolent it may seem at the time.

The enforcers at the top in the NEA and government are no doubt of considerable intelligence, but they are devoid of principle. We are often taken in, “conned” by intellectuals because we do not suspect treachery, the average person does not think in such terms. The American people are in general very gracious in this regard. Who would believe that there are those working to undermine our children’s well being?

The "new educational paradigm" since Goals 2000 is now called "No Child Left Behind." It was formulated in large measure by Ted Kennedy and the National Education Association (teachers union), and should be called "Most Children Left Behind."

Our first clue about their agenda should have been when the educrats began dismantling phonics in our schools. English teacher Michael Brewster states in the Jan 17, 2005 edition of the Las Vegas Review Journal (hold on to your seats because they don't often admit it) "I don't know how phonics instruction was tossed in the trash..." This quote from an exasperated long time educator lamenting the fact that illiteracy is an epidemic in this country. I suggest that you begin teaching your children phonics early - the teachers who are supposed to be doing this sure won't.

Our illiteracy rate is now the highest in all of American history! And we as a race (human race) are evolving, getting better as the progressives claim?

When I took German in college the first thing we learned was phonics, the sounds of the language. You must learn your ABC’s, take that away or blend it with whole word learning and you will rob the student, and have rampant illiteracy as we have today. Educators know this, yet they stick with the NEA party line which is evidently more important than the fact that they are destroying millions of young minds and futures. This is educational malpractice! Our schools are churning out ignorant students at an unprecedented rate.

From a Biblical perspective history is repeating itself for the last time. I shudder to think of the cruelty and barbarism of a people who embrace the current Tree of Knowledge of good and evil and heartily endorse the Pleasure Principle which it promotes. It is said the last generation will be the most treacherous and inhumane ever to walk the planet. We are already seeing the fruits of the progressive political indoctrination campaign promoting the information superhighway. (present day Tree of Knowledge) Let's continue.

Apple's first slogan, "Byte into an Apple", was coined in the late 1970s.

Below the Apple logo is an ad for Apple’s first computer, do you see where it reads “Byte into an apple” that is pretty telling in itself, but look at the price of their first fruit of the information age. To connect you to the tree of knowledge will cost you 666 dollars, and 66 cents. Why not 99 cents? as is the convention in modern sales. Dear readers, this is important. Why 666 dollars and not 660 or 650 or 700? Some one is sending us a message if we care to see it. It is not pretty, there is so much more I feel I should share so as to expose these things in their true colors, but that would take volumes

The Darwin (an anti-Christian name) OS has a cartoon mascot (no doubt to influence children) named Hexley (pictured here) -- a platypus dressed as a devil who performs occult magic, i.e. hexes. They're not doing a very good job keeping their alliances to the forces of darkness a secret, are they?
The Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers but is instead based off of an older, obsolete OS called "BSD Unix". The child-indoctrinatingly-cute cartoon mascot of this OS is a devil holding a pitchfork (pictured left).
This OS -- and its Darwin offspring -- extensively use what are called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- magick, vampyre, etc.) which is a program that hides in the background, doing things without the user's notice. If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you have these "daemons" on your computer, hardly something a Christian would want! This clearly illustrates that not only is Macintosh based on Darwinism, but Darwinism is based on Satanism.

the new MacOS X contains another Satanic holdover from the "BSD Unix" OS mentioned above; to open up certain locked files one has to run a program much like the DOS prompt in Microsoft Windows and type in a secret code: "chmod 666". What other demonic clues lurk in this thing?

Ahead we will discover some astonishing facts about the world around us that will reveal the deeper workings and agendas of our enemies. "to be forewarned is to be forearmed. and as the Lord put it in 2 Cor. 2:11 "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us : for we are not ignorant of his devices"

Please allow me to interject here that the symbols we are studying do not mean that these companies are satanic. It means that there are forces shaping our world who communicate at a different level than the average man on the street. If you look and listen there is much to be learned. For example there is an abortion drug called the "morning After" pill. It was given the nomenclature of RU486 and was widely known as RU486, but what was not widely known is the message in the nomenclature. To 86 someone is to eject them from a premisis. The name of the abortion drug is asking you if you are for 86 ing your baby. There are many examples such as this that are far beyond coincidence. To laugh it off as such is to be willingly ignorant.

Dear readers we must be canny of the snares set for our souls. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee..." God wants us to have the knowledge (not Satan's) necessary to defend ourselves. Let us continue.

Perhaps by now you are saying to yourself that Apple is just one company and this could be just an isolated coincidence. Well, Apple was the first company to offer a personal computer and access to the modern day tree of knowledge. There are many more examples however which point toward who is behind this agenda to expand the tree of knowledge and access to it.
Do you see the 666 in the Gateway logo? There are many, many more examples of satanic symbols in computer company logos, but I don't want to get too far off course since our topic is apples and the Tree of Knowledge. I plan to post an article on other examples soon.

Witness below a new line of jewelry - A luxury series of flash drives from Gresso. That's right flash drives that store bytes of information from the tree of knowledge! Note that they are shaped in the form of an apple with a bite or (byte) taken out of them. As an option you can also purchase a flash drive in the form of a cross. (Also pictured below) Notice that these are made out of wood - just like a tree. (remember - tree of knowledge) You may want to go take a look at one of their ads by clicking on the link below. Don't get lost now!

Did you notice their slogan? (if you checked out the site) The company encourages its possible customers to "Yield to temptation." Please note that in the Garden of Eden the fall was preceeded by the yield to temptation. If you buy this item you will not go to hell. I'm simply pointing out the allusions and symbolism used by this company and their strong Biblical analogy to their product.
They are sending you a message; are you Listening?
They are mocking God and Christianity in a subtle way. Remember that the serpent (satan) was the most subtle of all?

The universal symbol of Satanist cults is the pentagram, as evidenced on the cover of "Satans Bibel." (below, pentagram in red)

The pentagram on the cover goes by various names. It is a picture of a horned goat. Among it's names; Goat of Mendez and Star of Baphomet.

By cutting an apple in half, (perpendicular to the core) you will find a pentagram inside the core.

If you try this at home you may have to wait a few minutes for the core to open. If it was picked before it was ripe (as much of our fruit is today) the core will be more closed, but will open. Note : It is best to use a red delicious. Some of the genetically engineered apples of today have six pointed stars in the core.

On the official Church of Satan website they proudly boast that their site was made on an Apple computer. They love the apple for some reason! I wonder why? They also love the Apple slogan, "Think different." Here's what they have to say - "Anton Szandor LaVey, (founder of the Church of Satan) was an ardent supporter and exclusive user of Apple Computer’s products and services — he owned a classic Mac, a Performa, a desktop Power Macintosh, and several PowerBooks — we thought that it would be more than appropriate to make a parody of Apple’s ad campaign. By using an image of LaVey and super-imposing the logo and “Think Different” phrase, we arrived at a perfect tribute to Apple Computer’s products and their alleged support of iconoclasm. No one can accuse satanists of not thinking different!

Perhaps you do not see what I am pointing out here. Maybe you cannot see. I have shown quite a few people this material and there seems to be about 10-15% of the population who cannot see. No matter how I present the matter or try to explain, they just don’t get it. We do not always believe even when we see. But, Credendo Vires…by believing one sees.

Before I was a Christian I was an atheist and could not comprehend the Bible. It greatly frustrated me that this book was in a sense closed to me. I figured that the only people who understood it were either brilliant or they were just the ignorant masses believing what they were told. Then when I was saved, the light came on. What happened was now that I believed I could see. In Proverbs 25:2 we read “It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.” Without first believing (faith) the greatest secrets will remain hidden in plain sight.

What I am trying to do is show you a little of what I have learned. If you are not a believer my hope is that you will see and understand if the information is delivered in a different format. Now, on with our topic.
Have you ever noticed that we have many expressions which bespeak the apple's role in the Garden of Eden, sayings such as; "rotten to the core' and "he's a bad apple." or "Adam's Apple" Certainly the author of the following article in a major newspaper saw a connection between the apple and the Garden of Eden. He also saw the parallel between the tree of Knowledge and the information superhighway. (note the USB cable standing in as the serpent.) Of course the author never mentioned any such connections in words, still they are evident in his picture. They are sending you a message, are you listening? Open your spiritual eyes and ears.

I am not suggesting that apples are evil. The apple in itself is innocent. They are good for you. (nutritionally) You may eat them without worry, the damage has already been done. The apple has been associated with the fall for eons, and in diverse cultures. Let us take a look at some examples found written into the Chinese language!

What you are about to learn is astounding. Chinese characters are composed of pictograms which tell stories based on meaning and placement of the individual ideograms. These ancient characters pre-date the writing of the Bible. We know this from the copper scrolls discovered by archaeologists which date back over 3000 years.

The Chinese are quick to point out that their culture is pure and relatively untouched for over five thousand years. They take pride in this fact, yet their characters tell the story of the book of Genesis and even the Gospel books in the New Testament. How did these western stories appear in their pictograms? The answer is that they were placed there.

The characters ahead pre-date the writing of the Bible, yet they tell the story of the Biblical account of the Garden of Eden in stunning and accurate detail. Hundreds of Chinese characters yield this same phenomenon. We will not be able to go in great detail since this would take us off topic and fill many blogs.
If you wish to study this subject in more detail there are hard to find books (pictured here) that will give you a good start on the study of the Chinese Biblical codes. You might try searching Ebay or Amazon.

Let us begin with an introductory example. Adam was the first man created by God. The Chinese word for first is illustrated here.

This character tells the Genesis account of vs.7 Chapter 2. "And God formed the man of the dust of the ground and breathed life into him" The Chinese did not have a Bible around when these ancient characters originated. How did they know? There must have been some record handed down from their ancestors.

Eve secretly ate of the Tree of Knowledge which was the beginning of sin.

The forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was first coveted in the Biblical account by Eve. You may recall that there were two trees specified by God in the Genesis record of the Garden of Eden - the trees of Life and Knowledge. Note the two trees below, with a woman under them.

Can you imagine how full of sorrow Adam and Eve must have been after they disobeyed God? The word for sorrow in Chinese is as follows. (see pic on left)

The Biblical account also tells us that Adam and Eve were ashamed because their eyes had been opened to sin. The character who was responsible for this evil epiphany was the Devil. Thus woman plus Devil = ashamed.

I apologize for my very poor Chinese calligraphy.
Do you recall that Satan was under cover of the tree when he tempted Eve? The word for tempter is a pictogram of a tree, the devil and cover. What tree? An apple tree.
There are all kinds of goofy hypotheses about the tree not being literal and the fall not really happening in liberal Bible circles. I've heard silly things like the tree being symbolic of sexual sin (to sanitize their strange theory) which is according to one "scholar" the original sin. That's not what God's word says. Don't these scholars read their Bible? Only a goofy Freudian could construe this very clear account as sexual metaphor. This crazy theory was even preached by a well known pastor with a national audience. He has been greatly deceived.

Don't fall for their bafflegab. It is meant to cause you to question God's word. Remember Satan did the same thing in Genesis 3:1 .We read where Satan said unto the woman "Yea, hath God said,..." This may be paraphrased as "has God indeed said?' This casts doubt on God's word.

The self proclaimed Biblical scholars have conspired to cast doubt on the word of God, just as their father did in the garden. Harsh words? There are not words harsh enough to describe their despicable actions.

To twist and attack God's word is one of the greatest affronts which may be leveled against God. King David writes "...and for thy truth for thou hast magnified thy word above thy name." Psalm 138:2 The Lord has placed his word above his name!
The so-called scholars are playing with a spiritual atomic bomb! If you think I am harsh on them wait until their judgment comes. God may be slow to anger, but God is neither tolerant, nor politically correct. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a testament to God's intolerance.

Now, if Apple computer were the only company in the modern day tree of knowledge to use satanic symbolism we could possibly dismiss all of this as some sort of coincidence or funny anomaly. The truth is that many computer companies use satanic symbolism and heavily advertise satanic messages. These are not simply funny anomalies. The stakes are incredibly high. The prize is literally your soul.

As we have seen the apple has played a pivotal role througout the most important turning points in all of history.

All of this is just one more proof among many that the Bible is the truth. Please come back for more proofs such as this in future posts. I hope it was interesting, and if you are a non-believer I hope you will take this information to heart. There are answers to the questions you have!


impressed said...

Wow! great information - alot to digest, I'm gonna have to read this over. I saw in a movie once a hint about the Chinese Bible codes. Could you write some more about them? This is very fascinating!!!

Mashko said...

This article totally blew me away. I have just recently started thinking about what Apple's company logo really ment, with all the current hype. But I haven't even scratched the surface of the issue.

jerryP said...

Ditto to what mashko said!!! As an agnostic I thought Christianity was boring. Perhaps I was wrong! I would like to see more material like this. especially about the chinese bible codes. Fascinating indeed!

erinzdad said...

Thanks for your comments everyone.

It is good to know it's appreciated. After all that is why I do this!

dixonge said...

As a former fundamentalist Christian and a long-time conspiracy fan I would like to thank you for a good read and a lot of laughs. I'll be sending a lot of hits your way shortly...

Wide Stancer said...

Wow. You know, a "point up" Pentagram is really just a harmless Pagan symbol, whereas the "point down" pentagram is construed as a Satanic symbol. I tried cutting open an apple but the seeds pointed "up" like the Pagan symbol. So there must be "normal" apples and "satanic" apples. How to tell them apart?

erinzdad said...

Jack Delmoso I deleted your post because of your language. I realize that I am getting a flurry of athiest traffic, but you are not entitled to spew your filth here.

Objections and criticisms are fine. Please at least try to conduct yourselves in a civil manner or you will be deleted.

erinzdad said...

Wide Stancer said...

"Wow. You know, a 'point up' Pentagram is really just a harmless Pagan symbol, whereas the "point down" pentagram is construed as a Satanic symbol... How to tell them apart?"

A little flaw in your logic:
The "harmless point up pentagram" is not harmless at all it is a Wiccan symbol. Satanists and Wiccans serve the same master.

A little study will show that Satanists and witches share the same high unholy days i.e. Ostara, Beltane, Harvest Home, Samhain and Oimelc to name a few. They even call the four highest unholy days by the same name - Great Sabbats. There are too many coincidences between Wicca and Satanism to dismiss - they surely have the same architect and master.

For more just Google!

Windchasers said...

But don't Mormons and Christians celebrate many of the same holy days and have the same roots? Yet you probably wouldn't say that they both served the same Master...

IOW, just because religions have some similarities does not mean they are the same.

erinzdad said...

That is a good point Windchasers.

Mormonism was however a deliberately constructed offshoot of Christianity - they even use the same Bible.

Satanism was not a deliberate offshoot of Wicca.

Jack Delmoso said...

"Jack Delmoso I deleted your post because of your language. I realize that I am getting a flurry of athiest traffic, but you are not entitled to spew your filth here."

This is an amusingly recurring theme I see, people deleting comments for trivial things like "oh noes your words offended me".

I understand that the moderating tools are there, though, and can hardly say you're not within your right to moderate away.

I don't recall using any foul language here. In fact, I don't recall anything I said. I think it was something about how I hope this is all a well-placed poke at various fundie ravings.

erinzdad said...

Jack said: This is an amusingly recurring theme I see, people deleting comments for trivial things like "oh noes your words offended me".

I did not delete your comment for any trivial thing like, "oh noes your words offended me". (sic) I deleted your comment because it was filthy and I for one do not find anything amusing about it.

I still have the email of your original comment as proof.

I realize that your mind and conscience are seared and you aren't capable of recognizing filth anymore since it has become mainstream, but to defend it is even more reprehensible.

I suppose I should thank you in an offhanded way. It is a stark reminder that I could never go back to being an atheist.

Conrad said...

This is very amazing material...I don't see how anyone with any rational thinking skills could dismiss it. There is absolutely no way all of this happened by chance!!!

I loved your article on the Pleasure Principle as well. Why isn't anyone else exposing this material?

I have seen bits and pieces of this around, but never interwoven in such a logical fashion.

Susan Lee said...

I taught English in China and they are very proud of the "fact" that their culture and language are pure. They think their culture has been untouched for thousands of years. In China the people think of us in the US as mongrels because we are not culturally or racially pure as they are.

This is a point of much pride for them. While in China I pointed out (to a few students) these hidden codes in their language and their unmistakeable connection to the Bible.

Their reaction was one of disbelief. They had been brainwashed to believe they were untouched by the outside world. They refused to see it even though the proof was there in front of them.

Thank you, you put the Chinese Bible codes to good use!

Anonymous said...

Yeah it looks pretty convincing until you relize that you can make a case for anything if you want to. There is a good case for the earth being flat too, but that does'n't mean its true.

I just saw a flying bear! now prove me wrong!

erinzdad said...

Hey anonymous,

You said: "Yeah it looks pretty convincing until you relize (sic) that you can make a case for anything if you want to."

If I'm ever on trial I want you on my jury!!! Do you really mean to imply that evidence means nothing?

You also said: "There is a good case for the earth (sic) being flat too, but that does'n't (sic)mean its true."

In light of the best evidence there is no good argument that the Earth is flat. I am not trying to burst any cherished bubbles here, but the evidence (keyword here) is pretty sound that the Earth is spherical.

You also said: "I just saw a flying bear! now prove me wrong!" (sic)

Well that's nice; you just saw a flying bear! Do you have any evidence? (There's that pesky keyword again!) I will not play the disprove a negative game with you anonymous.

If you wish to refute the evidence presented here then give us a plausible alternative explanation of the material presented above. Don't presume to tell us what it isn't when you can't tell us what it is!

ridehard said...



Anonymous said...

"The world wouldn't have had the computer without the apple?" What twaddle.

The world wouldn't have had the crusades, inquisition, slavery, colonialism or Nazism without christinanity.

erinzdad said...

Hi anonymous,

You quote me as saying, "The world wouldn't have had the computer without the apple"

I did not say that. What I said was, "Apple computers could not have come about without this synchronistic event involving a brilliant mind and an apple" You are either lying or did not read the article. Either way you are disqualified from commenting here with any authority whatsoever.

The knowledge explosion precipitated by that event made computers possible. Can you deny this fact?

I know you are probably an atheist, so let's compare notes.

Atheists have killed, maimed, oppressed, and tortured far more innocent people than Christianity. (It's not even close) Have you ever heard of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or Castro? Over 150 million dead!!! You, yes you anonymous are a hypocrite in the highest order!!!
You love to call Christians hypocrites, yet atheists are far, far worse.

Your comment makes you both a hypocrite and a liar.

You should really study your history anonymous instead of your propaganda tracts. Slavery existed before Christianity. Christians led the Abolition movement in the US.

The Crusades were a reaction to muslim attacks on Europe. No more need be said on this matter as it is common knowledge.

Hitler was NOT a Christian! He was an atheist who believed in evolution. (He said so in numerous venues including Mein Kampf) The Nazis were entrenched in paganism. Don't you even watch the history channel anonymous?

Are you telling me that atheists have never conducted inquisitions? What about the millions who were sent to the Gulags for their heresy against the religion of atheism and state? They (communist regimes) persecuted Christians.

Can you really mean that Christianity invented colonialism? I'm not even going to address that nonsense.


Anonymous said...

Great stuff man. I really liked the bit about the government dumbing down our nations children. I have always thought it funny that the countris we say are third-world or "in need of assistance" are actually much more educated than we are. sure we have some fancy schools, but you kind of have to be insane rich to get into them. I think it's crazy that we can put such high prices on good education. Like you said "knowledge is power" and I guess the government is doing a pretty good job giving all that power to the wrong people. (cough)Bush(cough). Again great stuff man.

Capricious said...

RU486 and the "morning after pill" (Plan B) are two different drugs--they do not have the same function. RU486 induces abortion, but the morning after pill (Plan B) is a concentrated birth control pill that prevents fertilization by stopping ovulation just like any birth control pill. That is not an abortion, just regular old birth control. I'm afraid that this is not the first instance of a flawed assumption and connection in your article. I appreciate that you want to weave everything together into a cohesive supernatural conspiracy, but this one is factually false and I encourage you to do further research on the subject.

I'm also curious how the name of an Apple operating system in any way proves that Darwinism is based on Satanism. Your argument doesn't explain this sufficiently.

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Capricious you are getting hung up on minutae. The RU486 IS commonly referred to as the "Morning After Pill." My point remains valid.

RU486 induces abortion and you totally missed my point in the article. Are you for 86ing your baby? I'm sure you are.

You also said, "I'm also curious how the name of an Apple operating system in any way proves that Darwinism is based on Satanism. Your argument doesn't explain this sufficiently." WHAT?!?! I never made that point! Didn't you even read the article before blurting out this nonsense?

If you want to debate please make a cogent arguement!!!

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Critiquing an argument is not the same thing as debating that position. Ask a doctor if RU486 and Plan B are the same thing. Furthermore, I resent that you accused me of wanting to kill my baby. That is an immature, inflammatory comment, not worthy of someone who put so much research and work into the essay.

Try a little more sophistication in your presentation. Everything is not always black or white, up or down.

Oh, and God was the One who decided to put five seeds in apple cores, in case you forgot Who created the earth and everything natural upon it.

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The RU486 drug 86's babies and kills them. I can't put it any more clearly than that. What don't you understand about that?

You want to argue names for the drug. I don't understand your "nuanced" logic. It's as though you believe that because DOCTORS don't call RU486 the morning after pill it does not abort babies. Where did you get this absurd notion?

I understand the liberal technique of obfuscation to cloak a lost arguement and cloud issues, but this is ridiculous and just hurts your credibility. Disdain and disregard for the truth are NOT virtues Capricious. I know, I know you will do anything (even make asinine arguements) to defend your precious institution of abortion.

Abortion is a ghoulish operation. Did you know that babies being hacked up by the "doctor" in-utero fight off the attack and actually scream and feel pain? If you support this fiendish barbarism (and I have a strong hunch you do) then I have no regrets about hurting your feelings! Look what you and your liberal accomplices have done and are doing to tens of millions of helpless babies!

Don't whine to me saying, "I resent that you accused me of wanting to kill my baby." You need a reality check!!! I'M THE ONE OFFENDED BY YOU AND YOUR COMRADS HEARTY APPROVAL OF ABORTION!!! DON'T EVER FORGET THAT CAPRICIOUS -I DON'T COTTON TO MURDER WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR NOT!!!

Let's just cut to the truth here - you are a far left liberal. It's plain to see. Nothing I can ever say will convince you that abortion IS the barbaric murder of a helpless baby. So, go make your nonsensical arguements elsewhere please. They offend thinking folk.

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I know full well that RU486 is an abortion drug. All I said was that it is not the same thing as the morning after pill (Plan B), which is birth control. I never disagreed with you that RU486 is an abortion drug.

I read and commented on your article because I found it interesting. I can't understand why you refuse to be civil when a reader asks for clarification. Hysterically calling someone names doesn't strengthen your argument or your credibility. Not everyone is a conservative or a liberal.

And you never answered me about the apple core. I believe that God created everything on the earth, and I can't understand why He would make one of his creations a satanic symbol.

Thinking folk also use spell check. (It's spelled "argument.")

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You did write on your article: "...If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you have these 'daemons' on your computer, hardly something a Christian would want! This clearly illustrates that not only is Macintosh based on Darwinism, but Darwinism is based on Satanism..."

If this doesn't mean you stated that Darwinism is based on Satanism, then I don't know what would.

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